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This week I was back in the ring with Erica Payne…

This week’s segment on Fox Business got duped Casone’s Corner, complete with boxing ring graphics. Do you think the producers were trying to say something about my previous sparring matches with Ms. Payne? Everyone played nice this week, and some really great points were made about yet another stimulus. Check it out, and leave your thoughts below.

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11 Responses to “This week I was back in the ring with Erica Payne…”

  1. Jason Griffith Says:

    Great job Mark. Interesting to hear her say the government needs to give people money to go shopping and buy new products. It’s the motivation to get new money that can deliver progress. the real boxing match is between creative destruction in one corner, and government spending in the opposite corner. Keep up the great work.

  2. Gene Offredi Says:

    As always Mark, you came thru with the hard facts of the private sector obtain the proper attention from government, which should provide tax incentives to the private sector in order to promote jobs and the creation of cash flow thru the system and build the economy going forward !!

    Great work and keep it going !!!

  3. George Ellis Says:

    I noted several false assumptions in Erica’s view of the success of Keynesian Economic Theory. The stimulus after the Great Depression didn’t work. As soon as stimulus was withdrawn, the economy tanked again because no new wealth had been or was being created. WW2 spending was funded by government but it did create a sustainable recovery, because the money went into private businesses to create war materials. After the war ended that productive capacity was converted to production of consumer goods, resulting in long-term job creation and wealth.

    When their big government spending programs don’t produce positive results, liberals usually try to cover their failure by complaining that their programs would have worked if only we had spent more money on them. This is simply a Catch 22 argument.

    Erica is using the old liberal playbook of blaming legislative failures (in fact all their failures on any subject) on Republicans. By my last count, Dems still have majorities in both House and Senate. Why is it the Repubs fault that they can’t pass more unemployment (welfare) benefits? Because they can’t get enough Dems to vote for it! They won’t vote for it because their constituents don’t more government debts loaded on us and our posterity. If unemployment benefits really created jobs or wealth; we should all quit our jobs, get a government check and let somebody else in China do all the work.

    This lady doesn’t have any problem with lying to you and the audience. Her objective is to convince the audience that her view is right no matter what the costs. Remember, to many of these Washington liberals, the truth is not an absolute it is relative.

    I liked the way you presented the position for Free Markets and Small Business. I think your arguments will be even more persuasive if you rebut her, when she makes factually false statements. Liberals count on being able to use forums like this to mislead uninformed persons in the audience. I believe the old warrior’s advice not to ask or give quarter to your opponent would apply here.

  4. Bill Mullen Says:

    Let’s see if I get Erica’s point-A person who is on the dole, will use money that is left over after they pay their rent/mortgage, food and utilities and buy non esential products. She is a non thinker with that approach.
    With respect to the “stimulus”, it went to cities and states to keep first responders and teachers from getting layed off. The cities and states looked at the extra money as a windfall and abused it.

  5. Evan Barnard Says:

    None of these people are willing to admit that some short term “pain” of those who are unemployed is what will begin the entrepreneurial process and is inevitable. Phrases like “through no fault of their own” convey victim status on the unemployed and discourage them from taking risk. Keep up the fight, at least the panel is on your side.

  6. Doug Alden Says:

    Mark, you should have jumped all over her with her republican taunt. The repubs were willing to extend the benefits if Harry Reid was willing to use some unspent stimulus money to actually pay for 1/2 the costs with this bill. Harry and the Dems want campaign issues because everything they have done has been frightful and unproductive. Hello F.A. Hayak. (Probably spelled wrong. You need to add a spell checker for us retart conservatives.)
    Doug

  7. Matt Starke Says:

    Mark,

    You got a Woo Hoo from me after watching this! You’ve got Erica’s agreement that the stimulus didn’t work, AND that small business needs to thrive. But as Bill noted, she thinks unemployment is actually going to be spent on non-essentials to spark the economy??? She’s been drinking from Pelosi’s water glass.

    Mark, you said it right, you were articulate, and the cast of the show agreed with you.

    I love it, I love it, I love it!

    Maybe after congressional break, the numbers of jobs will have increased because people got off their butts and found some friggin work.

  8. Garry Liday Says:

    Great job giving honest facts rather than just opinions.

  9. Ken Feyers Says:

    Hit it out again Mark….And I don’t like her glasses

  10. Robert Young Says:

    Mark, for those of us that actually understand basic economics you can literally let Erica talk herself into a black hole of lies. However, most Americans don’t understand it and the “spin” she is using seems convincing. If you would like to arm yourself with some facts here is a link from the Cato Institute regarding government spending and their unbiased opinion of what should be done. Oh by the way, they actually are economists so I would assume they read Economics 101. Interesting how they have a much different viewpoint than Ms. Payne. http://www.downsizinggovernment.org/

  11. Keith Laibson Says:

    Didn’t extend job benefits because an extra 20 billion dollars of additional spending that had nothing to do with unemployment benefits was added to the bill by the House, so the Senate said “no”. What ever happened to this new Washington we were supposed to get.

    Great job Mark. I think you were too nice and need to call this persons and anybody else’s bs out. They make inaccurate, half truth statements and leave out the entire story. Unfortunately half of America believes it because they don’t look into any of the facts themselves.

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